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29 Jul 2010 08:30 #3962
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Hi all,
I bought a Donkey Kong Jr Panorama Screen G&W like 2-3 years ago on eBay, game only, no box, not really beat up, the sound didn't work, but it was generally in pretty good shape when I got it. I kept my G&Ws hidden away for the longest time without batteries in them (mainly due to the fact that in the store they're like $5 for one) but recently I started collecting them again and decided it was time to stop storing them in my desk drawer. I found a really awesome wholesaler of batteries on eBay & bought enough strips of Maxell batteries to power all 23 I have now.
Now, every single G&W save for like 2 that I've bought recently, has a set of Maxell batteries in it, and they've all been working properly for 2-3 months since I decided to display them. I went to put my DK Jr. on display and I noticed that the vines in the upper-leftmost corner were very dim, as well as a platform toward the middle & Donkey Kong, during 2 of his 3 frames of "animation" when he raises his arm with the lock on it, also visibly fades. I thought that there was something wrong with the LCD, but there was no visible damage, the light filter/screen was unblocked, etc. I kinda gently tapped it a little bit, reseated the batteries, etc, nothing.
Then I replaced the batteries, thinking that maybe the wholesaler had them sitting for a while and maybe they began to lose their charge. Bingo, the LCD came back clear as day! In that "test pattern" that shows every portion of the LCD when you first put the batteries in, everything showed perfectly. So two days or so later, I notice that the same parts of the screen are dimming again... Again, I play with it to try & get it back to normal, because, "There's no way that batteries can die in 2 days?!" So on the off-chance that it was the batteries, I put another fresh pair in... another 2-3 days passed, and as of last night they were dying... again. So, just to ensure once & for all that this is indeed the problem, I put in some other brand of batteries I had gotten recently with a Tropical Fish game I had bought on eBay, that the seller kicked in for free. Sure enough, again, the LCD lit up brilliantly. Now, I'm already starting to notice fading in those same spots, and it's been around 24 hours since I put the 3rd pair in.
Has anyone run into this problem before? (And not even necessarily with a G&W, with anything that takes batteries that has had this problem) Googling the problem brings up everything from "a broken circuit", to "psychic phenomena" about people draining watch batteries with their body's electrical field, cell phone batteries, ipods, etc, i.e. - nothing useful. I really love the Panorama Screen games because they're so colorful, (I have Snoopy, too & a Tabletop Mario's Cement Factory) but it's super impractical to keep throwing batteries into this thing every 2 days or so. And I'm hesitant to take it apart because I don't really know what I'm looking for that could be broken (and moreover that I could even fix if I did identify the problem). Anyway, thanks in advance for any advice anyone can provide.
I bought a Donkey Kong Jr Panorama Screen G&W like 2-3 years ago on eBay, game only, no box, not really beat up, the sound didn't work, but it was generally in pretty good shape when I got it. I kept my G&Ws hidden away for the longest time without batteries in them (mainly due to the fact that in the store they're like $5 for one) but recently I started collecting them again and decided it was time to stop storing them in my desk drawer. I found a really awesome wholesaler of batteries on eBay & bought enough strips of Maxell batteries to power all 23 I have now.
Now, every single G&W save for like 2 that I've bought recently, has a set of Maxell batteries in it, and they've all been working properly for 2-3 months since I decided to display them. I went to put my DK Jr. on display and I noticed that the vines in the upper-leftmost corner were very dim, as well as a platform toward the middle & Donkey Kong, during 2 of his 3 frames of "animation" when he raises his arm with the lock on it, also visibly fades. I thought that there was something wrong with the LCD, but there was no visible damage, the light filter/screen was unblocked, etc. I kinda gently tapped it a little bit, reseated the batteries, etc, nothing.
Then I replaced the batteries, thinking that maybe the wholesaler had them sitting for a while and maybe they began to lose their charge. Bingo, the LCD came back clear as day! In that "test pattern" that shows every portion of the LCD when you first put the batteries in, everything showed perfectly. So two days or so later, I notice that the same parts of the screen are dimming again... Again, I play with it to try & get it back to normal, because, "There's no way that batteries can die in 2 days?!" So on the off-chance that it was the batteries, I put another fresh pair in... another 2-3 days passed, and as of last night they were dying... again. So, just to ensure once & for all that this is indeed the problem, I put in some other brand of batteries I had gotten recently with a Tropical Fish game I had bought on eBay, that the seller kicked in for free. Sure enough, again, the LCD lit up brilliantly. Now, I'm already starting to notice fading in those same spots, and it's been around 24 hours since I put the 3rd pair in.
Has anyone run into this problem before? (And not even necessarily with a G&W, with anything that takes batteries that has had this problem) Googling the problem brings up everything from "a broken circuit", to "psychic phenomena" about people draining watch batteries with their body's electrical field, cell phone batteries, ipods, etc, i.e. - nothing useful. I really love the Panorama Screen games because they're so colorful, (I have Snoopy, too & a Tabletop Mario's Cement Factory) but it's super impractical to keep throwing batteries into this thing every 2 days or so. And I'm hesitant to take it apart because I don't really know what I'm looking for that could be broken (and moreover that I could even fix if I did identify the problem). Anyway, thanks in advance for any advice anyone can provide.
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29 Jul 2010 16:36 #3963
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Replied by gawaleus on topic Re: EXTREMELY Short Battery Life Problem w/ Panorama DK Jr.
Hello takarabako and welcome to the forum
You really have a very strange problem, I've never heard of before.
Usually the LR43 and LR44 batteries last for weeks or even months.
I'm testing this for a while now with a Donkey Kong Multi Screen. I inserted the batteries about two months ago. I rarely play the game but the "auto mode" is running all the time.
Even today, alle the sprites are bright and clearly visible.
But a Multi Screen game is not a Panorama Screen game... Maybe the Panos really eat up a lot of power?
I'll test this with my Panorama DK JR. game, I just have insert batteries...!
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You really have a very strange problem, I've never heard of before.
Usually the LR43 and LR44 batteries last for weeks or even months.
I'm testing this for a while now with a Donkey Kong Multi Screen. I inserted the batteries about two months ago. I rarely play the game but the "auto mode" is running all the time.
Even today, alle the sprites are bright and clearly visible.
But a Multi Screen game is not a Panorama Screen game... Maybe the Panos really eat up a lot of power?
I'll test this with my Panorama DK JR. game, I just have insert batteries...!
- Patrick
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29 Jul 2010 21:19 #3965
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Replied by takarabako on topic Re: EXTREMELY Short Battery Life Problem w/ Panorama DK Jr.
Actually, I took it apart last night out of sheer curiosity & I saw no real problems. There were no disconnections or corrosion inside save for a few small dirt spots around the control panel and there was a little bit of rust/oxidization around a capacitor or resistor, which might be the problem (if a capacitor isn't working right, it may just rampantly be consuming battery power). Though I KNOW it's the batteries (I've dropped them back into another G&W after they looked depleted & the LCD is dim/nearly dead on the other G&W), I don't think it's exclusively the batteries. I think the LCD plates weren't touching the ribbon cable in spots, thereby dimming certain images on the screen. I have no idea what to do to remedy it, really.
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04 Aug 2010 07:13 #3979
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I had the batteries sitting in my game for five days now and everything still is OK. The screen is bright and all characters are showing.
The batteries themselves were not brandnew, they have been sitting in a drawer for over a year now...
Maybe you could fix it with a contact spray?
Replied by gawaleus on topic Re: EXTREMELY Short Battery Life Problem w/ Panorama DK Jr.
I suppose this might be the reason.takarabako wrote: and there was a little bit of rust/oxidization around a capacitor or resistor, which might be the problem (if a capacitor isn't working right, it may just rampantly be consuming battery power).
I had the batteries sitting in my game for five days now and everything still is OK. The screen is bright and all characters are showing.
The batteries themselves were not brandnew, they have been sitting in a drawer for over a year now...
Maybe you could fix it with a contact spray?

